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If
you sent in commentary from 11-3 to 11-11 midday - it was not
received by the webmaster. All form submissions and email through
the host servers was interrupted and is lost.
Please,
if you are up for it, resend whatever you can - we are back
up and it tests out as working. Hallelujah.
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Missed
the chance to speak up? See
all the 'CPN Asks' Surveys,
go back and take a minute, and be heard!
Get
vocal. Participate - it is mostly painless. Tell us what
you like and what you don't and what we are still missing.
Give it to us straight. We can take it.
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Fate
of Webmaster rests in the hands of CPN community.
(November
2001)
With
lousy timing but after a year of committed volunteer effort, your
webmaster is pooped and not willing to go on without a basic financial
commitment. Webmaster is putting it out to the community because
it is time to be truthful and time to decide...
Because
CPNers will either value this form of communication and information
or they won't. Because you will either sanction dues or revenue
being diverted to pay for this site's maintenance and growth or
you won't. So since I did this for the CPN community, I leave it
up to you to decide.
If
there is no legitimate community interest if this site is not 'FREE'
then tell me now...
"Is it worth anything to you?" Is it worth
twenty-five cents a week per family even if it comes from your dues?
So...
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NOVEMBER
2001: |
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Will
you support the
continuation of this site - even from dues?
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Here
are the results - through 4-21-02 of 34 responses
(if you submitted during the 11-3-01 to 11-11-01 window, please
re-submit - your opinion matters to me and the tech glitsch could
not have been more untimely - thanks).
Doing
this by simple count of "vote":
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Yes,
I will add my twenty-five cents. |
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Replace
her. I know someone for free. |
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No.
Don't care what happens, let it go. |
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*This
topic also extends into the Resident
Forum, Topic #10, CPN Website (as
of 12-6-01).
Anyone
who sent in comments without a vote attached is on the forum.
Check it out too. |
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And
what you have had to say... |
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2-2 |
"Pay
her. It is more useful to more people than a Rec Center would be.
It has grown too big to be a volunteer position." |
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12-12 |
"I
like the website and try to visit weekly. My concern is this, at 25
cents per family per week times 1900 homes (figure stated on the home
page) that is $475 per week times 52 weeks is $24,700 per year. Seems
a bit much to me." |
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12-04 |
"We
believe that the CPN website is wonderful and appreciate Susan's dedication.
However, several bids should be obtained from professional website
companies. Then we can cast a vote based on substantial information." |
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12-04 |
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Oh
my, we are going to play ping-pong. Whoever you are, why don't
you identify yourself and email
me and we will talk about your concerns.
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12-03 |
"I
believe it's a wonderful website and I truely appreciate Susan's dedication.
However, being unfamiliar with the cost of maintaining a website,
we owe ourselves several estimates from companies that do this professionally.
Then put it to a vote." |
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12-03 |
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I'll
take a spin at answering you - surprise! but I do this
for a living professionally (I have done so since '93
- an eternity on the internet - I am self-employed and incorporated).
I have invoicing of my rates through the last 3 years that
show that CPN has received $47,000 of my time gratis (less
the $2000 I received in 2001, which I
have disclosed). I did this primarily in the spirit
of community service, and yes, I did hope it would develop
into something at least marginally equitable at some point
because I am committed to the concept of community online
and committed to CPN - I have been a resident since '86, it
is my home too. In hindsight, it was a poor business decision
to devote such time and resources. Ah well.
If
you want to toss this out to other third-parties for bid,
level the playing field and have them provide the origination
interface, content and all the concepts you see online today
- all things I have already provided. Or do you want them
to bid on this work standing on my shoulders?
Is
this what comes of creating and building something here? Why
is it that no one was worried about my integrity when I was
donating my software, hardware, wits and sweat all these months?
The
irony - and it is an ironic universe - is that the rates I
have asked for (25 cents/week/household) are far less than
what "growth mode" 24/7 custom work commands (which
is what this is and what sets us apart). I reduced rates because,
and more is the pity, I care about what happens. But... if
I have to wade through "we think she's screwing us"
on top of it all - I would want out because people
who can think that are not who I thought I was working so
hard for these last 14 months (when it was my turn to act
on simple trust and good faith).
Wow,
have I lost my sense of humor. I hope it is temporary.
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11-30 |
"None
of the three choices represent my view. I simply selected one to make
sure that my "vote" and comments were logged. I like the website and
the information it provides. I am not opposed to the site being supported
by dues; however, if it is to be supported by dues, the Master HOA
should solicit bids for maintenance of the site from Susan and other
individuals or companies. Then a decision should be made based on
qualifications and bid amounts. I would like to know what, if any,
increase in HOA dues would be required to support the site from dues." |
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Be
reassured, all comments are posted. I don't always enjoy reading
them, but I am faithful to getting them up if I receive them. |
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11-19 |
"I
often go to the website, both as a user and as a supplier of information.
This is such a great way to interact with the community and probably
one of the cheapest forms of communication available. We'd be foolish
to let this great website go to waste. It could use a lot more promotion
via the newsletter, e-mail alerts, etc. People need to know it's out
there for it to reach its fullest potential. Susan has been great
to work with. She is excellent at what she does and is very responsive
to our requests." |
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11-19 |
"To
repeat what someone else already said--this is a no-brainer. If
CPN is going to have any form of community communications whatsoever,
a vibrant (and therefore actively maintained) web site must be the
first order of business. This web site should receive priority over
any printed matter--this is 2001 after all.
So
far as Susan's compensation: she should be paid properly for her
time. If she doesn't do this for us we're going to have to hire
someone."
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11-16 |
"Are
you kidding me? This is a no brainer. Pay up CPN." |
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11-16 |
I
think Susan provides a valuable service. I frequent the site and rely
on it to keep me apprised of news and events in my neighborhood."
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11-15 |
"Without
question the cost is minimal for the volume of information contained
at this site. I can truly relate to the cumbersome hours you have
devoted and you should be reaping a reasonable monetary compensation!
If one is budget minded, think of it being less than 1 gallon of gas
from the Total station and certainly less than a pack of gum, or less
than "biggie" sizing a fast food meal!! You have my vote!" |
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11-14 |
"I
think the site is marvelous and would hate to see it languish. I'd
far rather contribute $1.00 per month or whatever than $115 to a rec
center that is neither needed nor wanted in many cases. I hope you
can continue -- we need this site." |
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11-13 |
"Go
ahead--keep on rolling, just DON'T raise the dues!!!!!!! We already
pay too much to live here." |
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11-3 |
"I
thought we were already paying for the web site." |
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11-3 |
"I
don't know the number of homes in CPN currently. I think the money
paid to the webmaster for this site should equal about $5,000 per
year. I would certainly be willing to pay my part of that. This is
an excellent web site. I am very surprised that it has been put together
voluntarily, due to the quality of both the contact and the structure."
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11-2 |
"I
already have problems paying all the CPN dues of which I do not use
any of the facilities. Everything should be on subscription basis.
If somebody wants it they can pay extra for it - I have major issues
with the Rec Center !! BTW, the site is great but as a resident, it
does not add any value for me. I just want to live here and not pay
more on top of my mortgage!! Susan, I am a s/w engineer too and I
feel that you should definitely look at your business!! Take Care!!"
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11-1 |
"The
webmaster needs a new agent. From my calculations you should be
getting a part of 30% of our Master Association dues. That would
be a piece of $30,000 annually. According to Linda Nuzum's letter
which refers to how our dues are allocated. In it she states, "...which
also covers all of the other services provided by the Master Association,
including this newsletter, the community web site and email alerts,
and community social events..." If Anderson can get $5,000 a month
out of the Metro district, I would think the webmaster should get
his/her share. If not, decrease the amount that is given to the
Parks Authority (currently 70%) and give it to our communication
folks. With no Rec Center to fund, I think there should be plenty
of cash left for the important things.
ps.
I appreciate the webmaster's unbiased posting of our community forum.
This is a full-time job for many people. Good job!"
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To
all the people who took the time to express their thoughts - thank
you for speaking up and having a voice. |
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